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Jon
Shear, director of "Urbania"
"Urbania"
is one of the most poignant and amazing films I've ever seen.
I was fortunate enough to view this masterpiece during the
Agliff 2000 Film Festival in Austin. The film was to be distributed
by Unipix in the fall but the company ran into some financial
trouble. Lion's Gate stepped in, picked up the film, and stuck
to the original release schedule. And while a few critics
have been lukewarm to the film, the majority have been overwhelming
in their praise, including myself.
"Urbania"
is the kind of film that should be seen cold. The less you
know about it the more spectacular it's playing. Therefore,
I urge you to see the film and then return to read this interview.
While Mr. Shear and myself have been cautious to not spoil
anything about the film, this interview does contain tidbits
of information that may spoil the film's wondrous surprises
for you.
And
now, 13 Questions with Lodger and John Shear:
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| 1."Urbania"
is your first film. What kind of career did you have before
this? |
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Most
of my professional experience has been as an actor. While
much has been in film and TV - Heathers, Independence Day,
And the Band Played On - the most satisfying work has been
in theater - the premiere of Angels in America, the Broadway
productions of Six Degrees of Separation and Runaways, in
particular. The vitality of the experience has been the most
satisfying aspect. The work tended to be quite emotional and
provocative. Being the conduit of energy between the creators
and the audience. Tapping into the center of energy at the
heart of a piece, funneling it out to the audience and having
them funnel it back to the actor and building back and forth
from there is a blast. Being the guide for the audience through
unexpected territories. Letting them feel safe enough to continue
moving through more unusual terrain. It's all so satisfying.
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| 2.
What was it like moving behind the movie camera? |
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The biggest
difference between acting and directing is control. The job,
satisfaction, and danger of acting is rooted in surrender
to the director. Directing is the opposite. You need to corral
the energies and talents of everyone else to build a unified
vision. The difference between film and theater directing
is primarily technical. The goal and task is the same. But
the means are somewhat different. Different tools to get your
vision across. Editing, color timing, etc. So many more decisions
to be made in film. The audience member is tied more to your
way of seeing. The ground is different. On stage, you build
from a black void. There's a street scene: you put in the
fewest, most essential elements needed to give the sense of
what's needed. On film, the starting point is the opposite.
You start with reality and strip away until you have only
the elements necessary. Not just from a budget standpoint,
but from getting the biggest bang from the fewest elements
- again to give the most impact.
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| 3.
The film is based on a play, "Urban Folktales." How did this
material come to your attention? |
| The play
was part of the Mark Taper Forum's New Play Festival. I played
the lead, Charlie, played in the film by Dan Futterman. I later
produced its transfer to the Coast Playhouse in LA, and then
optioned the piece for film. I was interested in cracking open
the character's experience. His sense of trauma, both good and
bad. To be in love and to lose that love are both experiences
which change your sense of the world around you to such an extent
that you're often unsure what's real and not. Welcomed into
the cocoon of love or expelled from it, you often see your love
on the street, on a bus, in a window. You're sure he or she
is there. But it's not true. Often, you realize this instantaneously.
But for those moments, the world is a slightly surreal place.
I wanted to depict that. It took four years from the production
of the play to release of the film for us to write the script
and raise the money. We did readings of the screenplay to hear
it in front of an audience and to work with actors with whom
we were interested in collaborating, and show it to investors
we hoped to participate. |
| 4.
You wrote the screenplay for "Urbania" in collaboration with
Daniel Reitz, the playwright responsible for the source material.
How did that work out? |
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Daniel
knew I was interested not merely in "opening up" the play
but transforming it, using it as the jumping off point to
a very different experience. He was extraordinarily generous
and open-minded in making changes to a piece which had been
successful in its original state. After a year of our working
together, he stepped down after he decided that he couldn't
get the original piece sufficiently out of his head to take
it into this different world. I took over the script from
there and continued working on it for the next two years,
to create a structure and content which would reflect the
view of a man whose perception has shifted in response to
his experience. The legends and the love story were added
in this phase. Daniel's criticisms were invited and welcomed.
His notes I think were absorbed to his satisfaction. When
he saw the first cut, he asked only that the gerbil story
be dropped. We agreed to cut it. I fear speaking for him,
but I think he's quite happy with the film.
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| 5.
Part of the film's plot revolves around "urban legends;" were
you worried about the teen horror films of the same theme? |
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I was
a bit concerned about the Urban Legend flicks, but that audience
and our intended audience I think have little overlap. I didn't
have to do much research, because I'd heard so many of them,
or experienced them: my dad's kidney was taken - though not
by a luscious babe, but a mistaken doctor who'd been given
the wrong chart for my dad. I read a few books and visited
some websites to fill in the film, using snippets of stories
for some of the passersby in the film, to add more surreal
texture to the film. The tales were only told a few times
in the play. For the film, I wanted them to come to life around
Charlie, so the film would operate at the same juncture between
reality and surrealism that legends themselves occupy. When
I've experienced trauma, this is the way the world has seemed
to me. I have felt separated from the world around me and
from myself as well. I was also interested in using the legends
to bring to the fore what was in the play - namely, the myths
we have about each other and ourselves.
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| 6.
How did the process of casting the film work? |
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Fortunately,
I had autonomy concerning everything but the budget... Josh
was the only actor I knew before shooting. I knew of everyone
else, except for Samuel Ball... Sam was the only actor who
auditioned. He got his SAG card doing this and has since filmed
four movies. So he's doing fine. Our fantastic and tireless
casting director suggested Dan Futterman and Barbara Sukowa.
I had Alan Cumming, Matt Keeslar, Josh Hamilton, and Bill
Sage in mind during the last draft. Knowing our budgetary
limitations, my lack of experience, and the edgy sexuality
of the script, I felt that by making offers without asking
for an audition would both go a long way to balancing out
those challenges and give them a confidence that would help
if they agreed to take part. I wanted actors who were fearless
with their bodies and their emotions. This movie would work
in its attempt to take the audience somewhere they haven't
been only if the guides were actors that the audience would
want to follow. The major differences between working with
actors on film as opposed to theater have to do with pacing
and vulnerability. You've got a month on stage and basically
just a few hours on film to craft the perfect moment. They
each require a different approach. Much of the stage work
has to do with the momentum of the performance. On film, the
concentration is more on the moment itself. Your job as director
is to know the complete shape of the performance before hand.
On stage, the shape comes into focus as the month progresses.
This is why I can understand not having a hand in the play
script, but believe you have to have processed the film script
through your head countless times, so you already see it played
out before you start. Also, actors are more vulnerable to
the uses their image may be put to after shooting, so there's
a bit more heat around the hotter moments. During the masturbation
scene, Danny stopped and asked to look at the monitor to see
just how much of him we were seeing. When he saw that his
worst fears being answered, he said, "I can't believe my mother
is going to see this."
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| 7.
Talk about some of your cinematic influences for this film.
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I've
become more aware of the influences since completing the film.
I didn't watch certain movies over and over. I felt that I
had to make my limitation regarding experience an asset and
just work from my imagination. But now I can see the mark
of Atom Egoyan (especially Exotica regarding our title, Hitchcock
(the subjectivity of Vertigo), and Fearless (the use of music,
a central character who isn't always easy to identify with).
I wanted the film to look simultaneously surreal and naturalistic.
Super 16 gave that to us without any manipulation. The colors
are super-saturated and the grain is slightly heightened.
The post process we helped invent enabled us to keep those
qualities to an unparalleled extent. We didn't build any sets,
but we didn't leave any interior untouched. The production
designer was amazing. Every sequence has its own color, so
there was much to be changed in each location and she had
a total of 3K, including salaries, but she enabled us to do
everything we wanted.
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| 8.
What was the process of working with the numerous producers
on the piece? |
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Working
with Stephanie (Golden) in particular was bliss. We've been
working together on this and watched each other learn a tremendous
amount, sometimes by screwing up, over a long period of time,
and I've never felt that we didn't want the same thing. We
trust each other and that seems to be at the heart of so much
of this process. You agree to collaborate, especially with
the team of creative people you build around you, and you
have to believe you chosen each other for the right reasons,
so that when things don't go according to your plan, you have
to consider whether the difference is for the good.
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| 9.
Talk to me about post production. Who helped you most in this
process? |
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While
the general structure and many of the transitions were planned
out in detail, the film changed much during the shoot and
then in post. That's what's exciting about film. The making
of the film was very similar to the experience of the lead
character: you may want to gain control over your life, but
it ain't ever going to happen. His life, like the film, is
shaped as much by accident and circumstance as will power.
(Editors) Randy (Bricker) and Ed (Marx) and the other editors
who came on for a week at a time when Ed and Randy were working
on other projects all left were extremely patient in going
through each frame with me time and again so that the film
stayed rooted in Charlie's skewed vision of the world. It's
a complicated structure and without a traditional plot to
keep things moving forward, we depended so much on rhythm
to keep the audience inside the flow. Ed and Randy had opposite
approaches to the film and I appreciated that. Ed was most
excited about the heart pumping a mile a minute quality of
the filmmaking. Randy was most interested in the actors dictating
where we went. Both were essential, so together it was a perfect
blend. We spent half the entire edit on the first ten minutes
and the final fifteen. Setting up all the disparate issues
and then bringing them together in one woosh took time. The
task was always staying grounded inside Charlie's emotion
so that the audience stayed inside the film.
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| 10.The
film has won several awards at film festivals around the country.
It was shown at Sundance and was nominated for the Grand Jury
Prize. How important is the festival circuit to an independent
film these days? |
| We would
never have gotten released if it weren't for festival audiences
showing the distributors that there was a varied audience out
there for the film. We won awards at nondenominational festivals,
and these were audience awards so it was a way of letting the
distributors know that while many of the characters are gay,
it wasn't being perceived as "a gay film." Due to the intricacies
of the post process our first screening of the film was at Sundance.
The audience during the screening was great even though the
surround speakers were out and the third reel was the wrong
color - the faces were green, uy - and the forth reel was out
of synch. But we were getting laughs where we were hoping. And
then when things got intense there was silence, which was to
be expected but still a little scary when you're trying to figure
out whether you're having an impact. When the film finished
the silence remained. The head of the fest asked if there were
any questions. A woman raised her hand and said, "My question
is can we just be quiet for another minute." After another minute,
applause started up and rose. We've been OK ever since. Each
festival, gay and straight, major urban center, and smaller
has garnered a very different response and that's been most
exciting for me. Sometimes the audience enters the picture through
the legends. They talk back to the screen, with audience member
guessing which legend is occurring. Others connect to the sexuality.
During the masturbation scene in San Fran, someone groaned "Yes"
rather loudly and you could feel a ripple of satisfaction move
through the crowd. When women are there in large numbers, you
can sense a connection to the love story. |
| 11.Much
has been made of you and your producers asking critics and press
not to divulge too much of the film's plot in the media. How
has this worked out for you? |
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This
only happened at Sundance. Since then, we've not said boo
about what to write about. At Sundance, I just wanted the
audience to see it with no filter. I wanted one experience
where it was the film and not the advance that the audience
was responding to. Audiences have been most excited about
the twists and turns that the film takes. At Sundance when
Charlie revealed his sexuality, someone gasped. I appreciate
it much when people say I've never seen anything like this;
I've never felt anything like this. The less the audience
knows the more likely they'll feel this way.
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| 12.There
has been much press on "Urbania," most of it quite positive.
Can you talk about your feelings regarding the press' power
to make, break, or ruin a film? |
| I owe
a lot to the press. Most reviews feel like they've been written
by my Mom. We've been called the best film of the year by a
few, one of the best by many. Many have seen the film I thought
I made. Almost all engaged with the film and I can ask for nothing
more. |
| 13.I
want to thank you Jon for taking the time to talk to us here.
Just one more question: What's next for Jon Shear? |
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I'm working
on three projects. One even more provocative, in dealing with
teen sexuality from their point of view, another inspired
by Henry James, so a bit more upscale. Hopefully, we'll be
shooting by summer.
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We
hope so as well, Jon! "Urbania" is not only the best film
of the year, it's one of the best films ever made. You must
see it, if you already have not. Whatever Jon Shear does next,
one can only imagine it will be hard to follow up his debut.
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